What happens when the new Trump administration’s transition to power includes explicit plans for its own demolition? 

In this urgent WhoWhatWhy podcast follow-up to my recent pre-election conversation with Harvard professor emerita Nancy Rosenblum, we go deeper into how Trump’s drive for unchecked personal rule, combined with ideological extremists in his orbit, creates a uniquely dangerous form of “ungoverning” — where decisions about everything from antitrust cases to public health are based on personal grievances rather than public good.

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