From Ursula’s over-the-top evil energy to misunderstood characters like Elphaba, Disney villains have quietly shaped our gay awakenings for years. In this episode of OOP, Liam and Michael spiral through childhood queer epiphanies, zodiac signs, and all the ways growing up different can make you feel villainized.

We get real about being othered, family acceptance, and why sometimes the villain role is actually the most fabulous one. Expect laughs, tangents, and unfiltered reflections you weren’t ready for.

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