The conversation around diversity has been ongoing, spurred on by the events of 2020. But what should diversity in the church look like and why is it so difficult to achieve? In this episode, Renee and Nicole address these questions, and more, with their usual honesty and humor—with a declaration of whose responsibility this work truly is.

Intro music “Bhangra, but also jazz” and outro by Gregory Kyle Klug
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