This week Grant and Zoe are joined by Simone Williams, Program Manager at the Leadership Council for Women in National Security.  Simone talks about nuclear weapon modernization, switching careers into national security, and the vital importance of diversity in foreign policy.

In the final segment, Zoe discusses the play "Is This A Room?", Simone talks about the rule of law and justice, and Grant reads a portion of Catalog of Unabashed Gratitude.

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