In this production by the NYS Court System's Office of Diversity and Inclusion, two judges believed to be the first married same-sex couple appointed to the same court in New York share their views and experiences for a Pride Month podcast

The judges are both African American. They were both raised by single mothers. They both worked for the Legal Aid Society's civil division, where they were involved in housing issues and where they met. They raised two sons together. And earlier this year, when Judge Howard was appointed to Housing Court, she joined her spouse who was appointed two years earlier.