The guest in this episode is Charlie Wall-Andrews, a lecturer at the University of Toronto and Northwestern University, serving on the Board of Directors of WorkInCulture and Telus Community Investment Board, and the inaugural Vice-Chair of Music Canada's Advisory Council. Charlie Wall-Andrews shares her thoughts and research about the inequities in the music industry. She talks about the importance of public policies supporting grassroots organizations that are currently doing most of the work in EDI and are vulnerable in our post-pandemic society. She also makes a case for EDI being a necessity for all institutions, not just within the arts and culture, but across the board, both for better financial returns, to promote creativity, to ensure the wellbeing of its workforce, and to help them reach their full potential.