Computer hacking appeals differently to different people. For some, it is no more than just tinkering with the computer. For others, it is a way of life, a technical profession that shapes a person’s life and career. To help us get clear on what being a hacker truly is, who better to invite in this episode than someone who has had a deep journey with computer hacking? Pablos Holman sits down with famous hacker Riley Eller to talk about being a hacker and learning hacking skills. Beyond that, Riley takes us into his career experiences, from winning the DEF CON Capture the Flag contest three years in a row to the Wi-Fi mesh networking at a company called CoCo Communications. Plus, he also shares how he got into hacking, what he has learned, what he values about it, how you can be one, and more. Follow along with Riley in this interesting conversation with Pablos as they let us in on the world that only a few get to look inside.