In the second half of my conversation with Sarah Nicole Landry (@thebirdspapaya) on The Breakdown with Bethany, we take things to a whole new level. From the complexities of intimacy and relationships to the transformative experience of approaching 40, Sarah and I get candid about the personal growth that comes with this milestone age. We also share our wild and empowering journey of applying for the Sports Illustrated Swim Search—because why not dream big at any stage of life? This episode is a celebration of confidence, connection, and redefining what it means to show up for yourself and your dreams.

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