Is staying in a bad marriage easier than leaving? Phyllie and Nicky open up about divorce, healing, and reclaiming their lives.

With nearly 50% of marriages ending in divorce, why do so many couples still say, "I never saw it coming?"  In this deeply personal episode, Phyllie and Nicky share their journeys—what led them to leave, the emotional weight of that decision, and why they’re happier than ever on the other side.

If you’ve ever questioned whether to stay or go, this episode is for you. 

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🎶 Music Credit:

“Your Little Fool” by Baby & the Luvies

Resources:

Dr. Ramani’s Youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/doctorramani

Dr. Ramani’s book is a compassionate road map and survival guide for people in narcissistic relationships:

It's Not You: Identifying and Healing from Narcissistic People by Ramani Durvasula PhD