Former Penang deputy chief minister, Dr P. Ramasamy, has proposed that Malaysian Indians should form a political party that's not allied to either Pakatan Harapan or Perikatan Nasional, saying that this would benefit the Indian community best. We speak to him about his rationale for this, and also open up the conversation to our listeners. Later, we hear of the sentiments amongst Indian voters from David Marshel, former Seberang Perai city councillor and co-host of Tamil-language podcast Sembang Pokok.

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