Organic dairy graziers Thelma  Heidel-Baker and Ricky Baker join Chuck to talk about what they've done to have a financially viable 60-cow dairy. This episode builds on part 1 with Dr. Jon Winsten from 6/4. UPDATE: Part 3 was a Virtual Field Day with Thelma, Ricky, and Jon where we talked about the economics of grazing as well as production, conservation, and more. It is now available on YouTube.

Listen to Thelma's conservation conversation on the In Her Boots podcast.