Rev. Naomi Leapheart is a pastor, activist, professor and director of faith based and interfaith affairs for the City of Philadelphia. In this episode Darren and Esther use Rev. Naomi's words of wisdom to explore the big question: "Do we need everyone?" Where do we draw the lines between trying to get through to people, maintaining relationships, and moving forward? The saints ain't ready for this but we're going to do it anyway. It's Second Sunday.

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The Second Sunday podcast is hosted by Esther and Darren Calhoun.

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Podcasting is a team sport so thank you to our dream team:

Our Producers Esther, Anna DeShawn, and Nichole Hill

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About this pod Second Sunday is about Black Queer folks finding, keeping and sometimes losing faith. It’s a second look at a topic that feels increasingly dismissed and minimized. It’s Second Sunday.

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