Tatiana is joined by Justin and they discuss the importance of feeling over just knowing in spiritual practices, using the example of a Native American ring dancer who emotionally connected with his audience. They reflect on Wilford W. Andersen's 2015 talk about the "music of the gospel," emphasizing the need to feel the spiritual connection beyond mere adherence to rituals. They highlight signs of losing this connection, such as feeling numb or burnt out, and stress the importance of genuine engagement with God. The conversation concludes with practical advice on reconnecting with the spiritual "music" through deeper emotional and spiritual experiences.

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