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In this episode, I’m joined by urban ecologist Dr Kylie Soanes.

We meet in Docklands, in Melbourne/Naarm, beside the floating wetlands Kylie helped bring to life. It’s not a typical conservation setting. Concrete, water, buildings and movement surround us, and right there, a small patch of habitat quietly doing its work.

We talk about how these wetlands came to be, what they’re already supporting, and what they represent in a city like Melbourne/Naarm right now.

Kylie also shares her journey into conservation, and how that’s shaped the way she sees cities. The conversation explores the kinds of places we create, and how they can invite biodiversity back into our cities.

This episode looks at how we might shape our future, making sure we’re living alongside nature rather than at the expense of it.