What does exercise have to do with following Jesus? In this conversation, I talk with David Mathis from Desiring God, about his new book "A Little Theology of Exercise: Enjoying Christ in Body and Soul." We explore how movement, discipline, and embodied habits can actually deepen our joy in Christ, shape our discipleship, and help us serve others better.

David Mathis is executive editor for Desiring God and pastor at Cities Church. He is a husband, father of four, and author of many books, including most recently, A Little Theology of Exercise: Enjoying Christ in Body and Soul (2025).

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