What if everything you were taught about hell... deserves a second look?

In this bold and freeing episode of The Dig In Podcast, Johnny sits down with Bishop Jamie Englehart for an honest and eye-opening conversation about one of the most misunderstood topics in Christianity...HELL.

Jamie is the creator of the course Get the Hell Out, a deep theological dive that challenges the traditional view of eternal conscious torment and invites believers to explore what Scripture actually says about judgment, destruction, and God’s ultimate purpose for humanity. In this episode, Jamie brings that same clarity and conviction to the table as he and Johnny unpack the biblical origins of hell, the meaning of words like Gehenna, Hades, and Sheol, and how our view of hell shapes how we see God.

Together, they explore:

• Where the modern idea of hell came from
• What Jesus really meant when He spoke about fire and judgment
• How first-century Jewish context changes everything
• Why a shift in our understanding of hell can lead to deeper peace, love, and trust in God

This is not about ignoring Scripture. It is about reading it with fresh eyes, asking real questions, and letting the gospel speak louder than fear.

If you’ve ever wrestled with the concept of hell, or wondered how a good God fits into the picture, this episode is a safe and powerful space to start digging.

Pull up a chair and join the conversation. You might just leave with more hope than you came with.

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