In this episode, Craig is joined by Mary McManus from Living Wage NI to explore the Real Living Wage through a commercial lens, not just a moral one.

They discuss why fair pay has become such a challenging issue for employers, the real pressures facing SMEs, and whether paying the Real Living Wage can genuinely make business sense when viewed through retention, recruitment, engagement, and long-term performance.

A balanced, thoughtful conversation for business owners and leaders who want to understand how pay levels impact business outcomes.

We hope you enjoy!