On today's show, Alex does a short Pacers vs. Celtics preview to kick off the podcast. Then, Alex plays the clip from 107.5 The Fan, where Rick Carlisle addressed why Mathurin is getting inconsistent minutes and what he needs to do better. Alex then brings on Kevin Bowen from the Wake Up Call with KB and Andy, who interviewed Carlisle about Mathurin's playing time. The guys discuss Carlisle's answer, how Mathurin is coached differently, why the fan base has legit reasons to be upset with the playing time and Alex explains why he thinks the margin for error with Mathurin is thinner than it should be. This was a really good Mathurin deep dive with KB.

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