Eric & Drew review their recent (and first!) debate with John O'Roarke and Pat Hine on the subject "Does the Bible Teach An Immutable Precreation Divine Decree?". They talk about how much they learned about debates and some of the slip-ups they made as well as strengths that they could have leaned into.

Just because God plans things does not equal an immutable precreation divine decree. Our opponents didn't seem to think that God could accomplish certain ends without controlling and micromanaging everything. The guys highlight that none of the passages that were covered by their opponents actually teach an "immutable precreation divine decree". In the Debate, Greek & Hebrew were quoted a few times by our opponents which wasn't helpful and demonstrates they weren't interested in context. We trust God because of his revealed character and history of goodness not because he is in control of all potentially rogue molecules. Molecules cannot frustrate his plans. On Calvinism, God seems to "lisp" and speak disingenuously about his plans if he doesn't change his mind at all regarding them. Drew highlights a low moment for him in the debate and E&D talk about whether they'd have a crack at it again.