Does the method matter? There's research that says the specific approach accounts for only about one percent of the outcome, and neither host quite buys it. So they take the claim apart.

What they land on is more interesting than a yes or a no. The method does matter, but it's one of five things that decide whether inner work moves someone. The other four: whether the practitioner understands the condition, whether they're trained in an approach that fits it, whether there's a real relationship in the room and where the person sits on their own developmental journey. Some change responds to conversation and reframing. Some is lodged deeper, in the body and the nervous system, and no amount of talking touches it.

Alexia draws on sixteen years of clinical work, JJ keeps pulling it back to the practical question underneath. The therapy-that-never-ends question gets raised and deliberately parked for its own episode. Direct, specific, and honest about what the evidence does and doesn't settle.

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