The Call Kent Podcast

Does the testing trophy need updating for 2025?


Listen Later

In 2024, we live in a world where the defacto for creating React applications is SSR (e.g. Remix, react router v7, Next, TanStack). Coupled with the rise in performance, reliability and reduction of cost in running e2e tests by playwright and now vitest's Browser Mode, is it time to consider reworking the Testing Trophy to make e2e tests the largest proportion of the trophy?

This is starting to make more and more sense to me as e2e tests are becoming as cheap to execute as integration tests, whilst integration tests are more complex to write in a SSR application without mocking client side or server side code.

  • The Testing Trophy and Testing Classifications
  • Vitest Browser Mode
  • @epic-web/app-launcher
  • Does the testing trophy need updating for 2025?
    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    The Call Kent PodcastBy Kent C. Dodds

    • 5
    • 5
    • 5
    • 5
    • 5

    5

    2 ratings


    More shows like The Call Kent Podcast

    View all
    The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source by Changelog Media

    The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

    285 Listeners

    Software Engineering Daily by Software Engineering Daily

    Software Engineering Daily

    628 Listeners

    Soft Skills Engineering by Jamison Dance and Dave Smith

    Soft Skills Engineering

    275 Listeners

    The Daily by The New York Times

    The Daily

    111,191 Listeners

    Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats by Wes Bos & Scott Tolinski - Full Stack JavaScript Web Developers

    Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

    988 Listeners

    PodRocket - A web development podcast from LogRocket by LogRocket

    PodRocket - A web development podcast from LogRocket

    58 Listeners

    devtools.fm: Developer Tools, Open Source, Software Development by Andrew Lisowski, Justin Bennett

    devtools.fm: Developer Tools, Open Source, Software Development

    27 Listeners

    Mostly Technical by Ian Landsman and Aaron Francis

    Mostly Technical

    15 Listeners