In this episode of The Team Engagement Podcast, host Shawn Richards speaks with Natalie Spiro, CEO of Drum Cafe North America, about leadership, belonging, and the power of Ubuntu.

Natalie explains how leaders can strengthen psychological safety by creating environments built on trust, vulnerability, emotional intelligence, and connection. Drawing on lessons from Nelson Mandela and her South African roots, she shares why belonging is one of the most powerful drivers of engagement.

What you'll learn:

• What Ubuntu means and why it matters in leadership
 • How belonging differs from inclusion
 • Why vulnerability builds psychological safety
 • The role of emotional intelligence in leadership
 • How shared experiences strengthen teams

Connect with Natalie:

Website: https://www.drumcafenorthamerica.com
Rhythm Builders: http://www.rhythmbuilders.org/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliespiro/

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