In this episode, Michael and Sam sit down with Dr. Dustin Sachs (DCS), CEO and founder of Psybercog Labs, to explore why humans - not technology - are often the limiting factor in cybersecurity. They dive into cognitive overload, bias, and decision fatigue, and how these hidden forces shape security outcomes. Dustin also shares his unconventional path into cyber and explains how Psybercog Labs uses behavioral science to uncover decision-making blind spots and help organizations execute smarter, more effective security strategies.

Things Mentioned:

• AI-Assisted Cybersecurity Team Discovers 12 OpenSSL Vulnerabilities, Claims Humans are the Limiting Factor – Some Vulnerabilities have been Around for Decades - https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/ai-assisted-cybersecurity-team-discovers-12-openssl-vulnerabilities-claims-humans-are-the-limiting-factor-some-vulnerabilities-have-been-around-for-decades
• Noise: A Flaw in Human Judgement by Daniel Kahneman - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise:_A_Flaw_in_Human_Judgment
• Psybercog Labs - https://www.psybercog.com 

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In this episode:

• Host: Michael Farnum
• Host: Sam Van Ryder
• Guest: Dr. Dustin Sachs
• Production and editing: Lauren Andrus
• Music by: August Honey