In this episode of Building Pathways to Healthy Minds, Priscilla Bagley talks with her husband Kris Bagley, about what it takes to cultivate healthy relationships. Drawing from years of pastoral counseling and personal experience, they explore empathy, unmet expectations, and why relationships aren’t about “winning” or going 50/50, but about carrying each other through hard seasons.

The conversation highlights empathy as presence rather than fixing, the importance of clearly communicating expectations, and how shared struggles can deepen connection. Priscilla and Kris also discuss modeling healthy repair and reconciliation for children, reminding listeners that relationships are meant for hard things. As the Bagleys say, "we are capable of doing hard things together."