On today's special episode, Anna + Katie have a very real and honest talk with Katie's husband, Dan Snyder. Dan has been a working musician for 12 years and fronts alternative rock band PAPER LIGHTS.    From his years of driving an armored car to the decision to take a chance pursuing music, Dan and Katie tell the behind the scenes version of the steps that led them to where they are today in the first interview they've ever done together.    Although they make a slightly wrong comment about Atlanta's current minimum wage, they explain what made giving up their secure jobs an "easy decision" and what they held as their safety net during that first year. Anna accurately assesses the "relativity of their risk".   Dan discusses the biggest challenges he's faced in his 12 years in the music industry, including why he finds it hard to set goals and discussing the ever mysterious gate keeper.    Dan and Katie explain a few of the responsibilities that come with being an independent artist and dispel a few common myths typically believed of musicians.   Dan discusses the ambitious endeavor PAPER LIGHTS achieved in the making of their most recent album Everything is Sound (HINT: It includes visiting 13 National Parks) and the difference between supporting other artists as a backing musician vs fronting a band.   He explains why singing in front of people is "the most vulnerable thing he could ever imagine" and the stages of fear he has personally experienced with this process, leading Anna to tell the story of the time he "saved her life" during a country music soundcheck.   Dan and Katie discuss some of their experiences revolving around the House Concert resurgence and Dan shares the stories behind two of PAPER LIGHTS' newest songs, Release The Bear and Simple.    We hope you love this week's episode!   PAPER LIGHTS have won GMA, IMEA, and Academia Music Awards this year. Their music has been featured on MTV, ESPN, NPR, CBS and for brands like Coca Cola, Boeing, Chicfila, and Outdoor Magazine. Their latest album is called Everything is Sound and includes sounds recorded from 13 National Parks across the US.   Also mentioned:   Jeremy Griffith    Josh Stewart   Shane Cole   Connect with Dan / PAPER LIGHTS online: www.paperlightsmusic.com Instagram: @paperlights Images from the National Parks Tour: #rudolphtheredadventurevan Twitter: @thepaperlights Facebook: www.facebook.com/thepaperlights/ Stream PAPER LIGHTS on Spotify   Connect with us! www.doingscarythings.com Instagram: @doingscarythings @jasperandjade.music @thekatiesnyder @annaesthetic23  #doingscarythings #jasperandjademusic Twitter: @katiesnyder   Listen to our music!(Click here to stream on spotify)