Shelly talks with Domino Kirke (musician and co-founder of Carriage House Birth) about her transition into motherhood and how it lead her into a career as a birth worker. Domino digs deep into the career of being a birth worker and her journey of how one unlocks trauma and supporting women as a doula (and our children as parents). Before Domino’s story Shelly talks with Phyllis Klaus (LMFT and Co-Founder of DONA) about how to heal trauma from birth (and trauma from anything else).