What made you start running? I’ll bet it probably wasn’t the same reason as our next guest, Ben Chan, who got into running for quite possibly the most humane reason. Now, he runs ultras and shares some of his lessons learned like, why you shouldn't go to the bathroom in a thorn bush.

If you’re in New York City, you’ve probably seen him around in the cold only wearing his leopard print shorts. Speaking of cold, I have a nasty one, so please bear with me.

We call this one #hypothermia #humansofn