Deirdre Ryan joins the pod to talk about how she went from donning the green shirt for Ireland as an Olympic high jumper to performing a similar role on behalf of the nation's food producers as Director of Sustainability & Quality Assurance for Origin Green at Bord Bia. She talks what sustainability really means, the challenges it brings for farming communities and wider society, and the initiatives that are being put in place to achieve it.

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