Hervé Auffret, Senior Security Sector Reform advisor with DCAF, joins us in this podcast episode on the subject of defence reform.  Hervé's expertise as an SSR advisor, and as a former member of the French Navy, guides the discussion on a people-centred approach to defence. This podcast series, “Donors Talk SSR”, is hosted by DCAF’s International Security Sector Advisory Team and it aims to unpack different themes and practices within security sector governance and reform.