In Episode 42 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Alec Wons sits down with Fire Chief Alec Oughton of Aurora Fire Rescue in Colorado to discuss the critical lessons learned from serving both the Navy and the fire service. They dive into the unique challenges of being an outside Chief, the importance of documenting your leadership journey, and why asking "why" can inspire change. You'll also hear how rapid population growth and media narratives are impacting the fire service and strategies for fostering authentic community engagement. This episode is packed with wisdom and insight for leaders at every level.