Guru’s this is an amazing episode! Our guest Mr. Matthew Collier is CEO of Sutherland Healthcare. Matthew has an amazing background and delivers some amazing insights and lessons on innovation and where digital health is heading. Matthew discusses why it is so difficult for healthcare systems to engage with labor saving systems. Then he gets into a playbook on selling your innovations to the payer system in the US. Gurus this episode is so packed with useful information you are going to want to listen to it multiple times!