Drew Wolfendale, President of the Fusion Party, returns to the show for round two. We cover Fusion's approach to the upcoming Victorian state election, why Drew rejects the "block One Nation" style of politics, and the real difference between aspirational and regressive populism. Drew also makes the case against a "take all ideas and sort them out later" approach to party platforms, and explains why Fusion leans on evidence and research rather than populist taglines — without becoming a technocracy in the process.If you missed our previous chat with Drew, that's available at https://youtu.be/D8ejhFlQm8o#auspol #reignitedemocracy #politics