Alumni, musical star and seminarian, the real Patrick O’Brien visits us on the podcast this week! Patrick will teach you some Greek and senerade you with his very own jingles. He also surprises Mary and Haleigh with his own hot take for them to discuss… the word every Franny loves to use (sometimes too much?) discernment. Also hear Haleigh’s hair clip break and Mary scold her at 00:52.

Link to donate to Ukrainian relief projects at the Kartause: https://commerce.cashnet.com/franciscanem 

HOT TAKE 🔥 it’s dangerous to over complicate and over spiritualize discernment.