On this episode Kate and Sally talk about separating artists from their art, a very smart and sassy parrot, and self-care in the form of stretching and kettlebells. Then they answer an email from a listener asking for advice on whether they should stop going to therapy.

00:00 Welcome to The Struggle Bus

1:22 Opening Jibber Jabber

20:58 A Thing We Did (for Self-Care)

23:53 Email: Advice on stopping therapy

42:00 Song of the Week (Kate's pick)