Inspired by Jay Shetty's recent interview with Emma Watson, we’re unpacking the pressures of getting married — from our experiences growing up in the church where marriage and motherhood were seen as the ultimate goals, to how it feels navigating our thirties unmarried.

We talk about societal and religious expectations placed on women, how those ideals shaped our early twenties, and how our perspectives have evolved over time. We also discuss why our culture often fails to set marriages up for success, and what it looks like to find peace with your own timeline — whether you’re single, dating, married, or somewhere in between.

If you’ve ever felt behind in love, struggled with societal timelines, or questioned what partnership “should” look like, this episode is for you.