CORRECTION: In this episode I misidentify Jeremy Jones as Todd Jones. Jeremy Jones is the snowboarder, Todd Jones is a skier and founder of TGR.

I’m not sure if we stir the pot, talk shit or just devolve into mushy both-sidesism but we discuss Cody Townsend (pro skier) and Jonathan Ellsworth (host of the Blister podcast) and their critique of Stuart Winchester’s recent interview of Rob Katz, CEO of Vail. We also discover that Robert doesn’t know the names of all that many pro skiers.

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Thanks to Beat Mekanik for our intro and outro music, you can find him at https://freemusicarchive.org/music/beat-mekanik/