Visual artist and singer/songwriter Doug Bale stops by for a little chat about his early years in AZ bumming around the live music venues on Mill Ave in Tempe. He shares his experience in LA and his various musical collaborations. We go DEEP into our shared love of Steely Dan. He teaches me what "KPI" means. We also talk about his tune "Outside" that he recorded with his band Mergatron. We also discuss his visual art, of which I am a fan. For more information about Doug, please check out https://www.instagram.com/dougbale/