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Dough Masters: Crafting the Perfect Pizza

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Today, I’m sharing a panel discussion dedicated to the art of perfect pizza. With me are Chef Robert
Andreozzi from Marvin Pizza in Providence, RI, Chef Derrick Tung from Paulie Gee’s in Logan Square in Chicago, and Chef Demetri Mechelis from Martha Dear in Washington DC.
You’ll hear how they first became interested in pizza-making, and they each share the individual paths that led them to the pizza business.
You’ll learn the secrets they employ to stay relevant and keep innovating in a popular culinary genre, and some of the unique toppings they incorporate.
They discuss finding balance between what they want to sell and what customers want to eat, and share some choice advice about running a restaurant.

What you’ll learn from this panel discussion on perfect pizza
  • First memories of a perfect pizza 2:45
  • Making the decision to open up a pizzeria 5:13
  • The story behind the name of Martha Dear 6:48
  • Falling in love with the pizza-making process 7:17
  • The struggle of naming your business 9:39
  • Going from fine dining to opening a pizzeria 10:57
  • Taking pride in local sourcing 13:39
  • The popularity of traditional pizzas 14:31
  • Leveraging the power of social media 15:54
  • The effect of water quality on pizza dough 16:49
  • Finding creative inspiration for new flavors 18:32
  • Standing out in a competitive market 22:43
  • Exploring heritage through pizza 23:19
  • Identifying what makes you successful 24:31
  • Knowing your audience and managing the interactions 25:38
  • What people are looking for in a restaurant experience 26:50
  • The line between what the customer wants and what you want to serve 27:27
  • Focusing on simplicity 28:57
  • Lessons on running a restaurant post-pandemic 30:18
  • A hot tip if you’re going into hospitality 32:20
  • Defying bad advice about business hours 34:03
  • Recognizing wins for everyone in the restaurant 35:19
  • Ingredients you shouldn’t live without 36:13
  • Late night topping combos 36:53
  • Toppings that need to be blacklisted 37:25
  • Operations considerations when running a perfect pizza joint 39:04


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    Marvin’s ability to integrate into the community largely hinges on the aspects that complement our pizza. This includes our selection of cocktails, various appetizers, the events we organize, and our merchandise. By presenting these elements as cultural contributions to the neighborhood, we have significantly contributed to our success. – Robert Andreozzi

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    The specials are not as profitable. If we focused solely on selling cheese pizzas, we might all become millionaires within a few years. – Derrick Tung

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    I don’t believe water plays a significant role in the quality. While having good water is beneficial, and New York might have the best water I’m aware of, for us, it’s really about our passion and our dough starter. – Demetri Mechelis

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    Restaurant Pizza Marvin in Providence

    Restaurant Paulie Gee’s Logan Square

    Restaurant Martha Dear in D.C.

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