Haley and Jordan are joined by Twitter legends and fellow basketball podcasters John and Tyler try to get to the bottom of an age-old question, who is the most down bad person in the larger NBA universe right now? Some nominees include Frank Vogel, Jerry West, and Jordan because she has to watch the Lakers.

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