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In this episode of Banter at the Bedside, we dive headfirst into the Reddit rabbit hole — specifically the infamous “Noctor” threads targeting NPs, PAs, and other advanced practice providers.

From claims that APPs are “cheap labor” to debates about online education, research credibility, independent practice, and the Dunning-Kruger effect; we read the posts out loud and react in real time.

With Abby (CICU NP), Kaleigh (ICU nurse), Cody (ICU nurse) and Michael (Physician) all at the table, this conversation goes deeper than internet drama. We talk about:

• Physician vs. APP training differences
• The reality of academic ICUs
• Confidence vs. competence
• Teaching fellows vs. teaching APPs
• Why online arguments hurt patient trust
• And whether “APP hate” is actually about insecurity, economics, or something else entirely

No medical advice. Just real talk from people actually doing the work.