Dr.  Benjamin Hale is an ethicist and Associate Professor at the University of Colorado at Boulder's Philosophy Department and Environmental Studies Program. Dr. Hale chats with Malia Jones about ethics, schools, fairness, masks, individualism, America, ebola, camping, indeterminacy, and complexity science. 

Episode links: 

Dr. Hale's 2014 essay on ebola in Slate

His book, The Wild and the Wicked: On Nature and Human Nature is available on Amazon.com. 

This episode was recorded on October 1, 2020.