Is philosophy just professional bullshitting? Well in this episode, the Dr. thOTs duo welcome their mentor, colleague, and occupational elder, Dr. Antoine Bailliard, to the microphone to discuss the state of the philosophy of OS and OT. From occupation to DB3, these theory nerds break down lenses and frameworks - leaving no theoretical stone unturnt. Highlights include: Ryan burning bridges, Antoine getting ontological, and Khalilah calling out propaganda when she sees it.