Just Like Nana

Dr. Daphne Fatter


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In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by licensed psychologist, Dr. Daphne Fatter to explore the world of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and its link to ancestral healing. 

They explore how trauma isn’t just a personal experience but a legacy burden that can be handed down through DNA, attachment patterns, and energetic imprints. The flip side is that we can also be the recipients of ancestral gifts.


About Dr. Daphne Fatter

Dr. Daphne Fatter is a licensed psychologist, clinical trainer, and international speaker specializing in integrative, trauma-informed therapies. As a certified practitioner in IFS, EMDR, and Ancestral Lineage Healing, she is a leading expert in resolving complex intergenerational and historical trauma. Dr. Fatter has authored significant works on these topics, including a book chapter on integrating IFS with ancestral healing and her own guide, Integrating Internal Family Systems into EMDR Therapy. Her work bridges the gap between evidence-based psychotherapy and the profound, often non-verbal realm of ancestral connection. 


In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

  • Trauma is multi-dimensional, including personal events as well as collective and ancestral traumas passed down through epigenetics. 
  • Ancestral trauma often shows up non-verbally as a sense of heaviness, unexplained dreams, or emotional reactions that feel "too big" for the situation at hand.
  • You don't need a perfect family history to heal. By connecting with "well" ancestors, you can access a powerful support system.
  • Integrating IFS with ancestral work encourages cultural humility, allowing us to recognize our place within a massive, nested system and treat ourselves and others with deeper curiosity and grace.


Resources Mentioned

  • IFS Integration by Jenna Riemersma: https://a.co/d/08wsDuTj 
  • Dr. Daniel Foor: https://ancestralmedicine.org/bio/ 


Connect with Dr. Daphne Fatter

  • Website: https://www.daphnefatterphd.com/ 
  • Integrating IFS (Internal Family Systems) into EMDR Therapy: https://a.co/d/0dKkitKs 


Connect with the Show

Are you curious about the "Elizabeths" in your own family tree? We want to hear from you!

  • Website: justlikenana.com
  • Share Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed.

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