Interview with academic Dr Eric Louw whose family has lived in South Africa since 1600s and used to be an anti-apartheid with the ANC but is now critical of the current government.

Today we discuss:

- What he thought of the confrontation in the Oval Office between Donald Trump and South African President Cyril Ramaphosa

- What the underlying causes are of the killing of white South Africans and whether it should be described as a genocide

- Whether it is possible for South Africa to be turned around

- What lessons South Africa provides for Australia and other Western nations

And much more

https://www.academicapress.com/node/646

https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Legacy-Apartheid-Eric/dp/B0086HUFUO