Dr Glenn Savage is a Senior Lecturer in Education Policy and Sociology of Education at the University of Western Australia. His current research examines the development of national schooling reforms and how policies in systems impact on ideas and practices in schools. He is also a Senior Honorary Fellow in the Melbourne Graduate School of Education at the University of Melbourne. In this interview we unpack the Australian education report, Gonski 2.0, and its implications for teachers and school leaders, along with the relationship between policy and practice globally.