This episode of The Anna Jinja Show brings together two powerful voices for a conversation that will stay with listeners long after they press pause. 

Dr. Gretchen Sisson, author of Relinquished: The Politics of Adoption and the Privilege of American Motherhood, shares a decade of research revealing the constrained choices and unacknowledged grief of mothers who relinquish children. 

Paired with her work is songwriter Jim Pilgrim, whose original folk-and-blues song “Down Here on the Ground” tells the story of Sofia—a 15-year-old mother navigating judgment, sacrifice, and the question: what is best for Isaiah? 

Together, they challenge listeners to look past easy answers and toward the complex, human reality of how families are formed and reformed.    

Song: Down Here on the Ground written and performed by Jim Pilgrim  

Guest Links: 

https://www.gretchensisson.com/ 

https://music.apple.com/ca/artist/jim-pilgrim/73254745

 https://open.spotify.com/artist/73Ni4WHWiqlouO0WPHoGyb

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