Dr. Holly Rogers is a psychiatrist, long-term meditation practitioner, and founder of the Mindfulness Institute for Emerging Adults (MIA).

Dr. Rogers shares the origin story of MIA - a mindfulness curriculum she developed at Duke University after noticing that students were struggling with stress and lacked practical tools to manage it. What started as a small experiment in a campus counseling center has since grown organically to over 350 universities worldwide, with more than 70,000 students trained. The secret being 10 minutes of daily practice - the lowest effective dose she discovered after years of research.

The conversation goes deeper into how mindfulness has become woven into evidence-based psychiatry, and why Dr. Rogers believes the mind-body divide is a myth - backed by science. She unpacks the power of belief in healing, the surprising data behind placebo and nocebo effects, and how she balances prescribing medication with prescribing presence.