We chat with Jillian Spencer a child and adolescent psychiatrist based in Brisbane.

In April 2023, she was stood down from her job as the senior staff specialist at the Queensland Children’s Hospital for raising concerns about gender interventions for children. Since that time, she has spoken out in the media about her concerns which led to further allegations of breaching the Code of Conduct. She remains suspended from her job.

We discuss:

• How she became increasingly concerned about "gender affirming" treatment in Australia
• Why the Australian gender clients have ignored the Cass Review in the UK which recommended against puberty blockers and gender affirming care
• What explains the increase in the number of kids presenting with gender dysphoria
• What she has learnt about her colleagues and her profession, people generally, and about herself during this process
• Her recently released paper criticising the Queensland Gender Service evaluation (which essentially dismissed the Cass Review) can be found here: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10398562241280351