Dr Jodie's podcast, "Where to From Here," explores personal stories of resilience, mindset, and overcoming adversity. In episode 4, she goes in session with South African journalist Mary Lloyd, who moved from Hong Kong to Australia with her family to work for the ABC. 

Mary was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2019 during the COVID-19 pandemic. She shares her experience of having surgery to remove the lump, only to be told she had another cancer. Despite the challenging circumstances, Mary shows profound resilience and shares her mindset strategies that helped her through the experience with sincerity.

Mary has always used journalism as a vessel to shine a light on the world's problems and to give exposure to issues that matter. Her focus on women's health has led her to create a conversation around anxiety and to help people feel connected around their experiences. 

She often discusses the stigma around not being okay and society's pressure to present a perfect self. Through her work, she cultivates a voice that says, "it's okay not to be okay," and shares strategies to help women respond to discomfort and thrive.

Dr Jodie's conversation with Mary Lloyd is an inspiring and insightful look into the strength and resilience of the human spirit.

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