As limited in-person classes began in February, a spike in COVID cases forced UMASS Amherst into lockdown. Since then, cases have come under control, but, the campus is still operating at a fraction of its normal capacity. Eric spoke with Dr. Kumble Subbaswamy, the Chancellor of UMASS Amherst and one of the most respected leaders in public higher ed about the impact COVID-19 has had on our public universities and the future of higher education more broadly once COVID passes. This is that conversation.